HELGOEY EXPRESS

Sea and coast

Vessels within 20 km

fartoy:

15 results

1. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   258224500

   navn:

   AMALIE

   kallesignal:

   LG3009

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   70

   lat:

   59.12137

   lon:

   5.935617

   fart_knop:

   0.3

   kurs:

   353.4

   destinasjon:

   not reported by source

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:15:26+00:00

   avstand_km:

   1.75

2. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   257102260

   navn:

   HYDRA

   kallesignal:

   LF6764

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   34

   lat:

   59.099577

   lon:

   5.895443

   fart_knop:

   5.7

   kurs:

   318

   destinasjon:

   FISHFARMS

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:15:21+00:00

   avstand_km:

   1.87

3. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   259039460

   navn:

   ELIAS

   kallesignal:

   LG5248

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   79

   lat:

   59.090793

   lon:

   5.90797

   fart_knop:

   0

   kurs:

   not reported by source

   destinasjon:

   FISHFARMS

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:15:22+00:00

   avstand_km:

   2.01

4. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   257689700

   navn:

   CHARON

   kallesignal:

   LG9334

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   34

   lat:

   59.090615

   lon:

   5.908793

   fart_knop:

   0.1

   kurs:

   226.8

   destinasjon:

   not reported by source

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:10:01+00:00

   avstand_km:

   2.01

5. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   257338000

   navn:

   FJORDLYS

   kallesignal:

   LNHP

   imo:

   9734953

   skipstype:

   40

   lat:

   59.104473

   lon:

   5.859883

   fart_knop:

   6.1

   kurs:

   321.8

   destinasjon:

   STAVANGER-RYFYLKE

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:15:29+00:00

   avstand_km:

   3.73

6. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   257203000

   navn:

   RIGER

   kallesignal:

   LATB8

   imo:

   9373553

   skipstype:

   70

   lat:

   59.116675

   lon:

   6.00168

   fart_knop:

   0.1

   kurs:

   231.9

   destinasjon:

   NOFIS

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:13:54+00:00

   avstand_km:

   4.51

7. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   257529700

   navn:

   ALVHILD

   kallesignal:

   LG7795

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   53

   lat:

   59.065518

   lon:

   5.90837

   fart_knop:

   0

   kurs:

   not reported by source

   destinasjon:

   not reported by source

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:08:15+00:00

   avstand_km:

   4.67

8. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   258076500

   navn:

   POSEIDON II

   kallesignal:

   LNZC

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   90

   lat:

   59.064722

   lon:

   5.911338

   fart_knop:

   0

   kurs:

   not reported by source

   destinasjon:

   NO TAU

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:12:36+00:00

   avstand_km:

   4.72

9. Open the place page for this point

   mmsi:

   259023190

   navn:

   STRAND 1

   kallesignal:

   LJ3CB

   imo:

   not reported by source

   skipstype:

   30

   lat:

   59.064228

   lon:

   5.920143

   fart_knop:

   0

   kurs:

   not reported by source

   destinasjon:

   not reported by source

   sist_oppdatert:

   2026-10-21T05:10:24+00:00

   avstand_km:

   4.72

10. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    257015600

    navn:

    RYGERSKYSS__

    kallesignal:

    LF6063

    imo:

    not reported by source

    skipstype:

    60

    lat:

    59.060747

    lon:

    5.910813

    fart_knop:

    0

    kurs:

    299.6

    destinasjon:

    RYFYLKE

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-20T15:40:10+00:00

    avstand_km:

    5.16

11. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    258027830

    navn:

    AARDALSBUEN

    kallesignal:

    LH5739

    imo:

    not reported by source

    skipstype:

    70

    lat:

    59.150843

    lon:

    5.89097

    fart_knop:

    10.3

    kurs:

    228.2

    destinasjon:

    not reported by source

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-21T05:15:21+00:00

    avstand_km:

    5.29

12. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    257864700

    navn:

    SANNA

    kallesignal:

    LG9095

    imo:

    not reported by source

    skipstype:

    79

    lat:

    59.147073

    lon:

    5.846268

    fart_knop:

    0

    kurs:

    193

    destinasjon:

    TLF 99595501

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-21T05:14:17+00:00

    avstand_km:

    6.36

13. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    258021830

    navn:

    HELLA

    kallesignal:

    LFTX

    imo:

    9871268

    skipstype:

    60

    lat:

    59.161738

    lon:

    5.885258

    fart_knop:

    12.9

    kurs:

    348.3

    destinasjon:

    FINNOYSAMBANDET

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-21T05:15:22+00:00

    avstand_km:

    6.54

14. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    257131110

    navn:

    WESTING

    kallesignal:

    LK9709

    imo:

    not reported by source

    skipstype:

    70

    lat:

    59.117173

    lon:

    6.042468

    fart_knop:

    0

    kurs:

    not reported by source

    destinasjon:

    not reported by source

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-20T14:30:16+00:00

    avstand_km:

    6.8

15. Open the place page for this point

    mmsi:

    257694800

    navn:

    HELGOY VIND

    kallesignal:

    LF5652

    imo:

    not reported by source

    skipstype:

    60

    lat:

    59.138883

    lon:

    6.029608

    fart_knop:

    0

    kurs:

    not reported by source

    destinasjon:

    not reported by source

    sist_oppdatert:

    2026-10-21T04:59:40+00:00

    avstand_km:

    6.96

radius_km:

20

Aquaculture within 50 km

lokaliteter:

15 results

1. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   10113

   navn:

   Kobbavika

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.122317

   lon:

   5.934433

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.02

   trend:

   Decreasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.01

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.0

   trend:

   Increasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.0

   trend:

   Stable

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.01

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.02

   trend:

   Decreasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.46

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   1.83

2. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   11972

   navn:

   Prestholmane

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.117017

   lon:

   5.852033

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.08

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.03

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.18

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.25

   trend:

   Decreasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.01

   trend:

   Decreasing

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.26

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.29

   trend:

   Decreasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.92

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   4.33

3. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   10110

   navn:

   Djupevik

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.1474

   lon:

   5.863783

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.26

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.24

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.28

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.37

   trend:

   Decreasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.0

   trend:

   Stable

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.53999996

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.61

   trend:

   Decreasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.31

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   5.73

4. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   13221

   navn:

   Nautvik

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.183483

   lon:

   5.94915

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.26

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.18

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.3

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.19

   trend:

   Increasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.0

   trend:

   Stable

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.56

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.37

   trend:

   Increasing

   seaTemperature:

   12.25

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   8.66

5. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   18275

   navn:

   Kjeringå

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.192033

   lon:

   5.870017

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.33

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.45

   trend:

   Decreasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.68

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.72

   trend:

   Decreasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.08

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.07

   trend:

   Increasing

   totalLice:

   average:

   1.09

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   1.2400001

   trend:

   Decreasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.43

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   10.01

6. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   11939

   navn:

   Smal Skar

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.2051

   lon:

   5.966083

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.45

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.4

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   1.3

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   1.25

   trend:

   Increasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.05

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.07

   trend:

   Decreasing

   totalLice:

   average:

   1.8

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   1.72

   trend:

   Increasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.45

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   11.2

7. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   13222

   navn:

   Kunes

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.211367

   lon:

   5.9532

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.0

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.05

   trend:

   Decreasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.23

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.12

   trend:

   Increasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.05

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.0

   trend:

   Increasing

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.28

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.17

   trend:

   Increasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.5

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   11.76

8. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   17357

   navn:

   Rennaren

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.132517

   lon:

   5.721883

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.67142856

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.44285715

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.62857145

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.75714284

   trend:

   Decreasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.014285714

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.028571429

   trend:

   Decreasing

   totalLice:

   average:

   1.3142856

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   1.2285715

   trend:

   Increasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.642858

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   11.95

9. Open the place page for this point

   lokalitetsnummer:

   11928

   navn:

   Langavika

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   lat:

   59.230767

   lon:

   6.004483

   laksefisk_tillatelse:

   yes

   sykdommer:

   No results.

   luserapport:

   hasReported:

   yes

   isFallow:

   no

   adultFemaleLice:

   average:

   0.02

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.01

   trend:

   Increasing

   mobileLice:

   average:

   0.17

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.06

   trend:

   Increasing

   stationaryLice:

   average:

   0.01

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.01

   trend:

   Stable

   totalLice:

   average:

   0.2

   averageOfPreviousWeek:

   0.08

   trend:

   Increasing

   seaTemperature:

   13.71

   behandlinger:

   No results.

   avstand_km:

   14.53

10. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    45024

    navn:

    Lyregrunnen

    kommune:

    Stavanger

    lat:

    59.21425

    lon:

    5.717267

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.35

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.38

    trend:

    Decreasing

    mobileLice:

    average:

    0.5

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.67

    trend:

    Decreasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.0

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.28

    trend:

    Decreasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    0.85

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    1.3299999

    trend:

    Decreasing

    seaTemperature:

    13.64

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    16.84

11. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    21415

    navn:

    Dyrholmen

    kommune:

    Stavanger

    lat:

    59.285483

    lon:

    5.8583

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.43

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.39

    trend:

    Increasing

    mobileLice:

    average:

    1.41

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    1.035

    trend:

    Increasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.255

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.165

    trend:

    Increasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    2.0949998

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    1.5899999

    trend:

    Increasing

    seaTemperature:

    12.7

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    20.25

12. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    14495

    navn:

    Nordeimsøyna

    kommune:

    Stavanger

    lat:

    59.28955

    lon:

    5.811533

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.32

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.3

    trend:

    Increasing

    mobileLice:

    average:

    0.745

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.95

    trend:

    Decreasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.015

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.0

    trend:

    Increasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    1.08

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    1.25

    trend:

    Decreasing

    seaTemperature:

    12.785714

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    21.35

13. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    11893

    navn:

    Fosså

    kommune:

    Hjelmeland

    lat:

    59.268783

    lon:

    6.140833

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.0

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.0

    trend:

    Stable

    mobileLice:

    average:

    0.13

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.05

    trend:

    Increasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.12

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.03

    trend:

    Increasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    0.25

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.08

    trend:

    Increasing

    seaTemperature:

    13.82

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    21.82

14. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    35297

    navn:

    Ådnøy Sø

    kommune:

    Sandnes

    lat:

    58.91455

    lon:

    6.028583

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.42

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.26

    trend:

    Increasing

    mobileLice:

    average:

    0.22

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.13

    trend:

    Increasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.02

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.03

    trend:

    Decreasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    0.65999997

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.42

    trend:

    Increasing

    seaTemperature:

    13.7

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    22.16

15. Open the place page for this point

    lokalitetsnummer:

    11913

    navn:

    Kjeahola

    kommune:

    Stavanger

    lat:

    59.2933

    lon:

    6.0729

    laksefisk_tillatelse:

    yes

    sykdommer:

    No results.

    luserapport:

    hasReported:

    yes

    isFallow:

    no

    adultFemaleLice:

    average:

    0.01

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.03

    trend:

    Decreasing

    mobileLice:

    average:

    0.65

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.36

    trend:

    Increasing

    stationaryLice:

    average:

    0.1

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.26

    trend:

    Decreasing

    totalLice:

    average:

    0.76

    averageOfPreviousWeek:

    0.65

    trend:

    Increasing

    seaTemperature:

    13.39

    behandlinger:

    No results.

    avstand_km:

    22.4

aar:

2026

uke:

42

radius_km:

50

Ports and quays within 20 km

havner:

15 results

1. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2467303

   navn:

   Nordmaka kommunale kai

   kode:

   NOBVR

   type:

   Kai

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.1

   lon:

   5.916667

   avstand_km:

   0.88

2. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2456363

   navn:

   Nordmarka havneanlegg

   kode:

   NOTAU

   type:

   Havneanlegg

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.091743

   lon:

   5.909227

   avstand_km:

   1.89

3. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2456364

   navn:

   Mibau Stema Norge avd. Tau

   kode:

   NOTAU

   type:

   Havneanlegg

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.088795

   lon:

   5.903997

   avstand_km:

   2.32

4. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2328069

   navn:

   Breiviga

   kode:

   NOBVR

   type:

   Havn

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.08831

   lon:

   5.9054

   avstand_km:

   2.33

5. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2460604

   navn:

   Mibau Stema Norge - Tau

   kode:

   NOTAU

   type:

   Kai

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.088688

   lon:

   5.903763

   avstand_km:

   2.34

6. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2464021

   navn:

   Fogn ferjekai

   kode:

   NOFNY

   type:

   Ferjekai

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.13733

   lon:

   5.900447

   avstand_km:

   3.7

7. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2466505

   navn:

   Fogn hurtigbåtkai

   kode:

   NOFNY

   type:

   Ferjekai

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.137547

   lon:

   5.899971

   avstand_km:

   3.73

8. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2464019

   navn:

   Talgje hurtigbåtkai

   kode:

   NOFNY

   type:

   Ferjekai

   kommune:

   Stavanger

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.104733

   lon:

   5.858839

   avstand_km:

   3.79

9. Open the place page for this point

   havn_id:

   2465051

   navn:

   Fiskå Mølle kai 2

   kode:

   NOFIS

   type:

   Kai

   kommune:

   Strand

   fylke:

   Rogaland

   lat:

   59.117283

   lon:

   6.000077

   avstand_km:

   4.44

10. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2328070

    navn:

    Fiskå - Strand

    kode:

    NOFIS

    type:

    Havn

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.11646

    lon:

    6.00108

    avstand_km:

    4.47

11. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2460602

    navn:

    Fiskå Mølle, Fiskå kai 1

    kode:

    NOTAU

    type:

    Kai

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.11665

    lon:

    6.001347

    avstand_km:

    4.49

12. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2456362

    navn:

    Fiskå Mølle, Fiskå

    kode:

    NOTAU

    type:

    Havneanlegg

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.11654

    lon:

    6.001815

    avstand_km:

    4.51

13. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2328050

    navn:

    Tau

    kode:

    NOTAU

    type:

    Havn

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.06506

    lon:

    5.91077

    avstand_km:

    4.69

14. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2466895

    navn:

    Tau hurtigbåtkai

    kode:

    NOTAU

    type:

    Ferjekai

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.06529

    lon:

    5.90832

    avstand_km:

    4.69

15. Open the place page for this point

    havn_id:

    2463999

    navn:

    Tau ferjekai

    kode:

    NOSTD

    type:

    Ferjekai

    kommune:

    Strand

    fylke:

    Rogaland

    lat:

    59.065056

    lon:

    5.9083

    avstand_km:

    4.72

radius_km:

20

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